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Twice I have seen this, in maybe 30 years - somebody improving at such speed it belies belief.

The first time was Chris Weston, a year my junior. I landed a job as assistant to the late and very great Don Lawrence when I was 17, just edging out Chris. A year later Chris replaced me, and a year after that he was working for 2000ad. Today he's one of the finest comic strip artists in the business, as well as the best storyboard artist I have ever seen.

The second time was Ben Wolstenholme.

Don't get me wrong, Ben already had chops. He is an incredibly talented guy - and way too good looking for my liking too. He formed Moving Brands (a progressive, distinguished and award-winning branding agency) right out of college. He and I were both art scholars at the same school - he seven years my junior and following in my footsteps. He used to come round for drawing tips, and I'd draw him a Batman, or Judge Dredd, then get rid of him with a ruffle of the hair and head off down the pub.

Now he's my CEO at Madefire. Deeply annoying. :-)

Yet this isn't about his achievements in general, it's about his sequential storytelling. Ben is, as I said, very talented - but his art was very idiosyncratic, and a little rough around the edges. His figures were squat, tending towards the ugly. His linework distinctive and characterful, but unresolved and sometimes directionless. He was not, in my opinion, ready to jump into a major narrative sequence alongside some of the most formidable names in comics.

But over the weeks, then months, then couple of years it took for us to pull all our resources together and get Madefire going in earnest, something happened - You see, something else Ben is extremely good at is listening to advice! I pointed him at great storytellers, classic inkers, the best of the industry stylists. The first few pages he drew were ripe with character, but were not - yet - professional level. They felt illustrative, but tentative. However, they had a quality, a charm, that made it clear the work was going to be all right. It was going to work!

Literally five or six pages later and Ben was producing some of the most wonderful drawings I'd seen in comics for quite some time. His panorama in MONO episode 1 (check it out - it's free, right here on dA in the new Motion Books section) is, quite frankly, gob-smacking. And everything after it drips with panache, style, energy, and a will to be brilliant. It's like Clemente Coll mixed with Frank Miller via Barry Smith. It has the pure class of Gary Gianni, with the solid, weighty storytelling of Richard Corben.

I envy Ben. I envy the fact that he has come into this with a youthful will to be the very best he can be. He's untarnished by decades in a work-heavy, under-appreciated industry. He has the eye and wisdom of experience, but the energy you only get in those first few years as a pro. I wish I had that patience still. I long for that level of concentration, that concerted drive to make every. Page. Count...

I am also honoured to be the one writing his scripts for the motion books. Seeing my words come so vividly to life is thrilling. I can't wait to write more. And I know that whatever I throw at him he'll be able to handle. He really IS that good.

Go check out his dA gallery and say hi! benwolstenholme.deviantart.com…

Cheers!

L.
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BenWolstenholme Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
...so far to go but i've had a blast getting to here. I'm humbled — thank you Liam. x
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Professional Artist
My pleasure Ben. Your work is almost at a professional quality now! ;-)

Seriously, though - amazing work. I'm a huge Wolstenholme/MONO fan.
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bupaje Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
A appreciate your words about your friend. It makes it sound at least possible that radical improvement doesn't need to take 50 years. His work is fantastic.
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Professional Artist
It's possible - with lots of effort and hard work. Ben is legendary in his application and hard work... puts us all to shame!
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Professional General Artist
:heart:
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Professional Artist
:-)
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ViBlue Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Student General Artist
woooow I really like his work! Thank you!
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Professional Artist
I agree! :-)
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ileWolf Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Quite an inspiration, then! His art is amazing :)

Maybe that's cause he had great advice from you.
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Professional Artist
:-)
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runninkool Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I feel you shld get Mr. Biz in your team also .
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Professional Artist
Already is! He did a Mono cover for us. :-)
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runninkool Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Damn . let me chck it out . Thank you for letting me know Sir !
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Professional Artist
Pleasure! You really have to see it in the context of the story... :-)
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runninkool Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Sir I come from India and 2000 ad comics are nt available here . First time I came to knw abt you was through internet when I was chcking 2000 ad site and I saw this artwork of a female with monster , it was signed - Liam Sharp. Tht gt me hooked .
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Professional Artist
That's great to hear! Thank you for letting me know! :-)
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runninkool Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
uw Sir .
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting story :) Now I m fire up to improve more on my art skills! :eager:
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
Excellent! That was the intention - to inspire! :-)
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Bey-Fenn Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome stuff...will be fun to see how he advances in the years to come. Especially with mates like you to help him weather the rough seas.
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
I'm excited to see it! :-)
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Negshin Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
LOL how come I never get any training advice from you? Should I start pestering you more?
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
You're not my CEO! :-)

It does helpn when you share a studio...

xxx
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Negshin Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Why must you live in a different continent T__T ?
I do work in a studio, but it's a totally different ball game. I'm not sure if I'm improving or just relying on tricks to get me by these days... and I miss doing comic works. I do my own but I hardly get any time these days *is being emo, really misses comic stuff*
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SOULSSHINE Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:wave:HEY ! Sorry to mess in ...
But i reaaly think Expecialy "YOUR MOTIONBOOKS", In phones And Web publishing ... Will be Greathly Amazing !!
And can properly become not just a SOurçe of Income, as well serve as a good advertising Way to boost your Market based Illustrations comissions comming.

ITS ALL CONECTED DUDE !
.. Me myself and i as well my whole production both 3 or 4 of us got to learn ALOT from your Extraordinary Dinamic Art Skills And compositions and Design as well color usage ...
All your Work is reaaly Greath And no matter what format it will sell. But motionBooks Will make you even More popular in your Achievments and reach you into another degree of audiences.

About the "Tricks" to keep you going ...
In MotionBooks a Good thing is that you can Properly use All the tricks As are "In motion Images". All the tricks that you can use it will help . And you can use even more tricks in Motion Books that in Actual "printed comics" Can Actualy become more easy / As printed comics Are static / therefore needing more atention to detail individualy to each artwork ...

So Doing FIRST The MotionBook.
Then Do Some Expecial Adventures in print format.
Then Do the Expecialy Market based Illustrations ...

Can be a perfect never ending Triad That will push your carrer further.

You can be without Any fears about that.
Im prety sure all 3 are compatible and push for eachothers that much!

GOOD LUCK !
And Keep them COmming !

Ruben Ismael
RPGSI STUDIO
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Negshin Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Hello,
actually I meant to ask you about this as I saw your invitation. Would you be so kind as to note me what exactly it is this project is about please?
Thank you
Negshin ^_^
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SOULSSHINE Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:iconnegshin:

Hello,
actually I meant to ask you about this as I saw your invitation. Would you be so kind as to notice me what exactly it is this project is about please?
Thank you
Negshin ^_^




:iconsoulsshine:

THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION ! Means alot !

( usualy people dont kinda even dare to question what the #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE production and all its many groups around are ..
They just RUN AWAY from it like the evil from the cross ... or sometimes stay atached to it as they think is a cool drift, but usualy not even 10% of the almost 3000 members here reaaly know the real Thing Behind this ONLINE OPEN PRODUCTIONS UNIVERSE That we are Trying to Bring in ... )

SO There is actualy not many people with the courage to ask "what exactly it is this project is about please?" ...

So well sory not Note you with all this info ...

But hey ( As =LiamSharp is a very Cool mind open at will guy ) And a Niçe friend to us all...

AND ACTUALY AS THIS HAVE ALOT TO DO WITH #MADEFIRE As its just ONE MORE PRODUCTION TEAM USING Their Platform Anyway ...

Well i will just leave here all the info and crazy abouts ... For you
Or if not to all everyone that could be interested in All "WHataHells Is all About this "Universe" Thing We have at #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE Productions here ...


SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR ASKING !






Well our "Interactive Productions Online Studios Network" is quite a litle bit of a Standalone complex Concept ...


So if you dont mind to to endure tru the Long Abouts below ...
Youw ill find some entusiastic Answers on Why / how / And fast abouts our production Intiatives And motivations ...
That we Usualy just Spread Around ... Like A virus That it is ...

^^




Anyway

Simply the #SOULSSHINE-MADEFIRE #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE UNIVERSE is all about "JoinVenturing And Support" For People wanting to develop Their own projects / Expecialy With the #MADEFIRE "Advertising Platform".

We do Also Believe that MOTIONBOOKS are a Amazing Way To be Used as a Advertising Platform For WHatever kind of Crowd Funding Projects You need.

We believe that MOTION BOOKS Are a Ultimate Way for "Plan Designing" And call of Public Atention For All kinds of projects and productions, Be Used for as simple Literature / Art CONCEPT To full / Graphic "Light Novels", "Manga", "Comics", "Graphic Novels", "Magazines", "Rpg Roleplaying Card Gaming", "Game Books", Up to serve as Advertising Concept Method for "Animations" "Games" "Movies", Or Even to Just Showcase And reach Better Online and Offline Public Atention to your Work Tru the Smartphones network .




THAT SAID : The #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE #SOULSSHINE-MADEFIRE Production is simply a CALL TO ARMS. To everyone interested in "Not just develop comics" And uSe This #MADEFIRE Platform to Develop Comic Like productions, Beying Therefore a ONLINE UNIVERSE That join all those Platforms above and all those methods In one Big Multiproductions Online Community Were all those kind of projects Are developing and interacting with eachothers.

...





Anyway officialy that would be it ...

Now just here betwen us :wisper:

...
I could go Explaining About This Open Online Productions Community Universe For long long nights ... as iv been tru long 10 years the creator of this kind of "Online productions" and "Online Home studios" "Universal Gathering Concept" ...

But lets just say that is a Online Aliance of All kinds of productions and ideas, that at some point eventualy converge and interact and gameplay and roleplay the severall tipes of productions with eachothers ...

We were also the founders of our own "Interactive Game Motion Books" COmmunity Platform Some years ago ..
you can see our own Online "Interactive communitary" Game Motion Book tool Interface here [link] If you want of a preview or what we were doing already 5 years ago ...

But since then we been pushing Mister Liam SHarp Ideas since 5 years ago [link] ...

And Eventualy he Come up with BETTER COMERCIAL IDEAS FINISHING on its own ... Joined Up Ben Wolstenholme And End up Creating the Revolutionary platform that is the #MotionBookTool ...

Right now We are in the process of Ditch our own "Interactive Online Literature & graphic Game book COmmunity" Propreetary Tool, to MIGRATE to #MotionBookTool Wenever is ready ...

In our UNIVERSE We are Going Also to be the First ones to Develop the "GAME MOTION BOOK" Concept Out of #MotionBookTool That simply put is something that joins the Platform of fightingfantasy.com Gamebooks With a Epic universe Platform like Criptis [link] Mixing it all that with Kicstarter and All kind of projects and of course www.madefire.com CLOUD PLATFORMS ...

Is alot of Work to do that seriously will take us the next 3 to 5 years "Just to stablish it" and have our products selling ...




BUt Anyway as i said ... From a Simple MANGA . To a Gigantic Communitary MultiProductions Universe Massive "IDEA" like this ...

:iconmadefire: Is reaaly a Wounderfull way to Not Just ADVERTISE to Call Public Atention Since the early stages from product planing to Product ready. And even therefore receive Support and even make SALES since DAY 1 - Online and in SMartPhones ...

AND THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PROJECT IS ..

As the :devmadefire; Cloud Platform / With Deviantart as "Development nucleos" and all SMartphones worldwide to deliver / and all everyone in the world from fans to developers be able to merge their productions and ideas into concretitions TRU it ...
Beying Such a Universal "production Advertising toll" It will REAALy Allow us to not just Gather a Whole Community around your And everyones productions as well to Develop our own "Multi Home Studios" Online Gathering and Even develop WHole Online production Universes like that ...

THAT IS THE SOLE AND BIGGER PURPOSE IF THE WWW.SOULSSHINE.ORG PRODUCTION ORGANISM !

That we are right now Plotting Around ...

:glomp:





ANYWAY ! Everyone is very welcome in ! Anytime. Just need to showcase Their own productions around ...
Then TIME And alot of Day And night Efforts Within the Next 5 years will do the rest ...

But One thing is sure !

IF You alone can make a Wounderfull Production work Just with your 1 Men Manga production in the #MADEFIRE MOTIONBOOKS Platform ...
As amazing This platform is MANY PEOPLE TOGUETHER - Working for itselfs in its own projects - But Joining PROJECTS ACHIEVMENTS and Making Them Interactive with eachothers will be able to reach in community alot Further ...




We will be trying to Push this #MADEFIRE company Platform further ...
And even eventually within the next 10 years make a whole tokyopop.com and radicalpublishing.com Kind of Online Production Studios Publishing Gathering Platform Tru the #MADEFIRE Company ...

Thats another one of our Goals ...

As we actualy Beside studio also have a kind of in bankrupt Publisher here In portugal ... We mainly Do UNIVERSITARIAN BOOKS [link] ...

But we expect to revamp our own INTERTAINMENT Business , with this kind of new online platforms that are Growing here ...




NOW OF COURSE ALL THIS IS BULSHIT TALK ! ...

To talk is easy !

TO even do a 1 MotionBook Title is Like more than 6 Months of planing and work For 1 sole man ...
But thats exactly why we are making And starting this Online JoinVentures Initiatives ...

And incentivate Everyone / not to "Just join up Our Group" ! BUT TO MAKE THEIR OWN DEVIANTART GROUPS / FOR EACH PRODUCTION TITLE ....

In Order to make a BIG UNIVERSAL PRODUCTION AFILIATED GROUPS DEVIANTART NETWORK !...




SO *Negshin WANT TO JOIN US AND ALL OUR CRAZINESS ! SERIOUSLY?

- Well first thing You have to do is to Develop further your Manga/Motion Book title.

- And secound thing is to go to #makeagroup in deviantart and Make your own REDEMPTION-COMIC.Deviantart.com Group ...

- Invite all your friends and watchers ...

- Then Allow Everyone to participate And "open develop" in your "Worlds Enviroments" With their own Ideas and characters And Ideas ...

- Much Like *Karbo and its #Felarya Since some time ago been doing in order to advertise and sponsor and interact The fans with its Project.

ONCE YOU DONE THAT AND HAVE YOUR "OPEN PROJECT" MADE IN YOUR "OWN PRODUCTION" ...

Then you Just Have to AFILLIATE YOUR GROUP ... To our Many "Interactive Group & Individual productions" Within our OPEN DEVELOPMENT ONLINE UNIVERSE Network ...

And that is the #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE Devious Deviantart Interactive Productions In Action for you ! ...




WELL MAN HOPE YOU LIKE THE IDEAS !
- And of course aply them on your own projects on your own ! ...

We are just here to achieve WORLD DOMINATION Within the next 25 Years ...

And we will hav eto do alot of Art CONCEPT To full / Graphic "Light Novels", "Manga", "Comics", "Graphic Novels", "Magazines", "Rpg Roleplaying Card Gaming", "Game Books", Up to do "Animations" "Games" Online ofline "Rpgs" "Mmos" "ShortMovies", and Showcase And reach Better Online and Offline Public Atention to Our ONLINE OPEN UNIVERSE Home Studio Works Tru the Smartphones network .

Thats our Interactive online production Network DEAL !

HOPE YOU DIG IT !

And yeh many people just think we are Megalomanic Crazy !
And that is QUite Actualy Just RIGHT ! ...

Well we dont want to convince anyone ...
Whoever like our Crazy Production ideas Join us and work For itself ! Like never done before ...

Each one for eachself.
Each one for all.
ALL FOR ALL !
And all for one !

In a Universe To Join Them ALL !

Thats our #SOULSSHINE-ONLINE Production MOTTO !


WE ALL HAVE TO KEEP VERY HIGUER OUR GOALS / IF WE REAALY WANT TO TO MAKE OF ALL THIS / NOT JUST A ENTERTAINMENT / BUT A WHOLE LIFETIME GREATH ACHIEVMENT ! FOR US AND EVERYONE !

Thats our Motivation ...

...




DUDE YOU GOT TALENT ! AND EVEN ALONE YOU CAN MAKE IT !

SO WHat you Waiting For to Start Dreaming Highuer and WORK HARDER AND FASTER ! AND DELIVER MORE QUALITY AND QUANTITY ! Than you Even Did In your WHole lifetime !

CAuse the right time is NOW! For you to start doing itso !


ALL THE VERY BEST GOOD LUCK !


:hug: :rose: :glomp:

Ruben Ismael
RPGSI STUDIO

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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
I would hate to see you stop doing the comics. Your black and white manga is particularly gorgeous... It's always a struggle, choosing between freelance life, and a solid job. Ultimately you'll do what is right for you - IF you trust your heart, and follow a course that makes you happy. Don't allow yourself too many years to regret if you have not chosen either of these things!
Best always Nusha! x
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Negshin Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I guess coming from a decade of doing freelance work to a specific marketing based illustration role has taken me back in a lot of ways while it has always pushed me forward in a lot of ways.
I think I'm just struggling to find that balance between what I really want and what can be done. I'll be fine once I do ^_^
and LOL, no I will never give up on comics, bringing Redemption back online and have White Line to going straight into print for next year :XD:

Thank you though... and that reminds me, I still have that form to send you you guys <__<;;;;
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
Yes! We need a motion book by you! :-)
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SOULS-SHINE Featured By Owner May 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
GOT A NEW PREVIEW OF MY MOTION BOOK PRODUCTION ART/STORY ...

Check it out here :
www.deviantart.com/art/THE-FAORON-WARS-AT-ERANUS-372653326

Is not Deeply exactly all that i want it to be ...
The images must be "almost animation" like 1 Frame per 2/3 secounds ...
But Its getting better as preview of what it should be ...
There is like More 45% alot to improve still ...
But im getting Un-rust just .

Hey cheers.


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SOULSSHINE Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
YEah completly Agree ! That *Negshin guy Be in Black & withe or Colors Would be a hit in Motion books ....

Me and myself got alot to learn from him Such amazing dynamic Arts....

MAN ... There will be some Amazing SUrprises In deviantart .... When this #MotionBookTool hits the world...

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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
:-)
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SOULSSHINE Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Well you need to Have Alot of Guts to Talk low from Mister perfection there ...
But if you want to Nail Bitting Some more ...

Here it is Ben Wolstenholme In all good looking Glory Talking About Madefire at the November 8, 2012 SF AppShow
youtube.com/watch?v=TEk70FFqIZc


Its was Actually Funny To see Some Older College of Ben WolstenHolme Talking about him When he was 15 year old .. [link]

~jongi13 Apr 10, 2013
Well , Well .......as I sat in my GCSE Art exam all those years ago with Ben acrosss the room from me, I knew he was on another level.( even at 15 yrs old!)...but this!!?? Very proud of him and I wish I had stuck at it more!!!!!


And more Funny To see Some Madefire Colleges ... With Some Obvious Envious Admirations ...

*Ben-Abernathy Apr 10, 2013
We want some dirt on Wolstenholme! But yeah, he's another level...amazing stuff that chap.


But then the Truth COMED to light as son or latter everything COmes ...

~jongi13 Apr 12, 2013
M8, No dirt to give lol !! Other than his art, I mainly remember him for having dysfunctional knobbly Knees!!
Ask him about it, he dislocated his knee so his foot was pointing the wrong way!! Makes me squeamish even now!
Innit strange the things u remember!?!


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BUT ANYWAY TO ME The Guy COuld be a Genious Richie Generous Play boy ...

But True to be Said / He Doesnt reach 50% AS Artist to =LiamSharp or 25% as *JoeJusko ...

We Have to face the facts in Art Quality & Skills Means

:iconjoejusko: 100% ART SKILL [link]

:iconliamsharp: 50% ART SKILL [link]

:iconbenwolstenholme: 25% ART SKILL [link]

Deviantart Easily Exposes All trues !

Well Hope it Makes you Fell better now :icongrindanceplz:

KEEP ROCKING ! LIKE ONLY UGLY PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE CAN ROOL !

Life without Better People to Challenge would Not be better Or exciting in Anything !
Cheers Matte !

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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
Err... Only 50% as good as my old mate Joe? ;-)

I prefer to say Joe is the best Joe Jusko in the world.
I'm the best Liam Sharp in the world.
Ben is the best Ben Wolstenholme in the world.
And you, Ruben, are the best YOU in the world.

Never been much for comparisons as it's all subjective, and we all do different things. :-)

L.
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SOULSSHINE Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Heheh...

Everyone is Unique .
But Therefore means that Everyone Got its own BEsts That can be / Not just puted in Chalenge with eachothers.
BuT Also All everyone Singular bests Conjugated Into SOmething better same way .





But Thats the THING ! IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR MIND OPEN.
As everyone is so Unique - Nothing is Better Than Some Healthy Embarrassing Comparisons ...

Only If we Compare to the Bests And Merciless Therefore we know know our Rank and therefore only then We can grow .
Otherwise we Always will get the Ilusion That We are already "good enouph" .
But if we dont push Ourselfs we will never will.

And the RANKS the CHARTs and THE SELLS Will always say how much ...

For example : For me : In "True Art" Efforts.

*JoeJusko 85% =LiamSharp 65% ~jimlee00 55% *BenWolstenholme 45% =SOULSSHINE 15%

And for me to do those 15% i have to waste nearly 100 hours in each artwork ... to keep there ...

To do Something at your level i would have to waste 300 hours in each artwork ...

To do SOmething at JoeJusko i would have to waste 400 hours in each artwork ... And even that way i dont know ....


Now im Beying a Litle bit more Fair in rates And putting Myself on the "Real Art level" Outhere Equation ...
Now im just beying REALISTIC About Myself and about others Once more ...

BuT lets Face the fact: What is "Real Art" After all ? What is Real Achievments ? Well we cant Say Generaly - As everyone Got its own "Real Artstic Achievments Personal goal"

But Thats the thing ! We should make that kind of Healty Comparations to everything WE DO . WHY ? Well because Others Even if they are polite And educated Enouph to Not Saying it ...

People Actualy put Those rates To EveryThing we do . ... So its Actualy better to know it .

One thing is actualy also sure.

No man "Alone" "Reaches there" to build REal touching Master pieçes / Be in Production / Business / Art ...

YoU need to learN from others That Are better Than you.
And there is the deep need of BETTER ONES to JOIN THEMSELFS. To Make a better World to All everyone that Suround them ...

The Comics Buziness as Joe Madureira Itself Said here [link]

"Let's face it, many of us become artists because we are reclusive, social misfits. We'd rather stay inside and draw shit than go outside and play. We like to live inside our own minds. Why not?! It's awesome in there! And sometimes we don't want to let other people in. "


So As therefore Artists Dont reaaly like to COmpare Themselfs.
As much Artists Dont reaaly like to join their Art Achievments and put in a Pack or COllaborate witH Eachothers Also.

Art have been a reclusion on how much "The greatest obstacle you will ever have to overcome IS YOURSELF" ...
But Actualy That is Not True If yoU have to face the INTERNATIONAL MARKET ....

In this "Digital Art Era" Ends up not beying About "your Actual Art Skills" At all ...
But how Much You can Listen and LearN And absorve into your work froM All Everyone and everything that is Surounding you.

...




ABout BEN WOLSTENHOLME And MONO ART ...

Personaly I Admire the Dynamic Aspect and Composition of Mono .

Ben Wolstenholme / can be a WounderfulL Scene Compositing Drafter And make Action pages & action Scenes like no Other ...
But obviously its degree of "Digital Art" is limited, Its work looks like its back from the 80s 90's And that Also limits the Audience to Achieve Better goals And Better Results on MONO .

Iv been Told this From many other Digital Artists / that i present the Motionbooks At deviantart ...
And many of them ( cant see or Believe the possibilities of #MotionBookTool ) Because when looking at Series as this [link] or this [link] or this [link] They just DOnt Take it Seriously ENouph As for them MotionBooks is more like A STatic images now moving "Litle Revamp" of The way comics were made at the 80s

But for "me" they just Say that because the art is not "*JoeJusko" More "volumetric" Finished ...

UNFORTUNELY for all us Art Developers / producers .. the Expectations And DEMANDS That "Buyers" of Art Want now at 2014 Is Way too bigger by Unlimited Magnitudes that was "Selling" back at 1994 20 Years ago ...

And you have to face The facts dude ... a FulL issue of All Arts like this [link] Will not Sell 25% As much a Full issue With all Every single arts Properly Shaded and painted Like this [link]

Now of course Im noT Saing That the "irons" Are "bad Art" ... For me as Old School Artist that STarted back at 1990s Its very cool ...
But For the kids of this Days ustued to A hell lot better ... No matter the History They will not BUY it or BITE it That much im sure ...

Now do a Experience yourself As Deviantart is very good for this things ...
Search deviantart ( DRAWINGS & PAINTINGS ) Category with the latest month favorites Here this [link]
Or Go to the ALL TIME Favorites [link]

Now THAT IS WHAT SUPPOSED #MADEFIRE COmpany Customers Would buy GLADLY out of Its Motion books ...

SO therefore i can Say that *BenWolstenholme Art is Amazingly greath ...
But its 50% if that much of WHat is required this days ...

To be at 100% Its issues WOuld need a proper DIGITAL PAINTER Working Above its work And finishing with proper Digital ReMAsterisation & detail Like for example this [link] or Like for example Going further in this [link]

But on Overall DOing it in such way That "Improves" [link] but does not Illiminate the Drawing Artist Style ...

You guys at #MADEFIRE got a WOunderfull artist that is able to do that and would be WRAP up Ben Wolstenholme Art that is DAVE-KENDALL ...

dave-kendall.deviantart.com/gallery/?sort=popularity&catpath=/&q=

He is the tipe of guy that Would put MONO as well all other "Flat" 80s 90s "To much basic line" Arts As the IRONS [link] were it should ...

YoU See Its not about if the Art is Greath Amazing or not ...

But Serious you guys AS A COMPANY Got to keep up with the STATISTICS And give to your public What They Reaaly Want ... If you Want SALES & SUCESS That is ...

Is very good to OverRate All Everyone that can do And actualy finish "Comics" or Motion books as "Just to finish it" there is need a hell lot of tallent ...

But if I say to you that most of all Art Things Outhere are not even 50% finished to What the public REAALY WANTS ... That is This And very visible on the "tops favorited" [link] ...

Well you dont have to believe me ... Go to deviantart top charts or even better to CGHUB top Charts

cghub.com/images/search/page:1/sort:mostFaved/view:stream/

cghub.com/chart/type:images/

browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/paintings/?order=9

And you will get there Everything that Your And BenWolstenholme COmpany Should be Aiming at , And giving the Public.

That is what you guys Should Be comparing if you been doing at least 50% of That in every single image or not In your own "Most Official" productions.

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I Put here the Voiçe of All everyone that have not Courage to Speack Some realities ...

Just Because you guys are too high And popular And All Perfect ...
People SOmetimes tend to just please you And never tell "technically" what you COuld do better ...

Thats Quite the Worst thing Can Ever happen to a producer ...

Make their Productions Fail but never know why You know...

No matter How good you are or not - YOU LISTEN TO OTHERS / BUT NOT JUST ! - LISTEN TO THE WORLDWIDE CHARTS - And by The Example Whats Worldwide mostly favorited you Will turn Better Im sure!

ART IS it's all subjective, and we all do different things. :-)

Sure Friend ... But The BUSINESS is not Subjective AT ALL.

WorldWide People Reaaly know what they aim for ... And what they Will pay And what they will not .


Expecialy more hard is Today when all Best things / are all Pirated / And easily acessed .. WIthout be payed at all. SO why to pay For something Worst when you can Have for free Better ?

...
IN THIS DIGITAL ERA / And this Digital business... much diferent But not much from the Print market You Have to Give EVeryone At least more than 50% from What they are Waiting for.
Other wise not even 25% profits you should you will have in the end .

And if that means 50% More investment just for a proper "FINISHING" So be it ...
As you will earn in the end of all acounts 75% instead of just 25%...

...

And i Understand your Company Financial Situation ...
YoU been InvestinG Alot For a Product that Sure maibe didnt have Got you so far even 20% of your Investment in time and money ...

BEN WOLSTENHOLME Art is amazing ...

But The Graphic work is at its 50%.

All those image sthey would need a proper *Dave-Kendall To Finish The paintings Above *BenWolstenholme works ...

BuT Still let me be Honest And show you Some Charts ...

*Dave-Kendall Can be a Amazing Artist ...

But its work in Houses of the Holly here [link] Or that is Its latest work [link]

Its not even 75% proper Rendered As many other works More famous in its gallery [link]

And 75% Less Quality rendered Than others in its category [link]


SO YEAH like .: Whatever .. We canot COmpare Ourselfs as artists / Everyone is Diferent Everyone is Unique Everyone have its style of art...

BUT THERE IS THE CHARTS AND THERE IS WHAT SELLS AND ITS MOSTLY FAVOURITED AND WHAT SELLS MORE OR NOT ...

As Producers we have to keep very Aware of that You know ....


Of COurse its EASY TO TALK .
- But more Quality MEans MORE MONEY / MORE TIME ...

I know that prety well as a lowsy 10 hours Artwork mine Doesnt even gets favourited 2 times Canot be compared to the ones i waste myself 100 hours doing it ...
And the ones Artworks that i Take 200 hours DOing it are the most popular and most Favorited And the ones i'm sure i would do a Novel WIth all image slike that i would be have a good living out of it cause it would sell ...

Now What to do Take 200 hours DOing it ? Just to make sure that will sell ?

Well there is another option that is MAKE A COLAB WIth another Artist.
Toguether Im sure we would do 80% of the needed quality and just in 50 hours ...
SHare works ...

As Everyone is INDIVIDUAL AND UNIQUE / ALSO EVERYONE GOT ITS BEST THINGS / AND OTHERS THAT HAVE OTHERS ...

That Toguether they can COnjugate Skills and do something amazing At the proper needed quality.

THAT IS TRUE FOR ONE OR 2 PERSONS SUCESS.

BUT ITS THE MOST TRUTHFULL THING FOR A COMPANY ALSO.

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Now Liam / This Are FACTS.
The World of Business With Art : Its not all So much "subjective" As one Would Wish so much ...



ACTUALLY #MADEFIRE Initiative Itself Could Make it ALL more SUbjective ...

( As everyone in the world can make from Bad to good to Awsome works ... ) And everyone Sell it at its own pace also ! Wounderfull !

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BUT THE CHARTS / Are Always there still ...

And with tallent Enouph or not / We must Listen to it ... And learn Everything we could out of The Sucessfull techniques Other been having.
And aply that Technical somehow on our very Subjective own ....

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Ruben Ismael
SOULS STUDIO
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LucyFaerie Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
What a nice post.
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Professional Artist
I hate him!






:-) Not really. ;-)
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